2 Dope Queens is a podcast by Phoebe Robinson and Jessica Williams produced by WNYC studios. The show focuses on showcasing comedy from women, people of color, queer people, and other marginalized communities. I recently got caught up on the show during my drive from Baltimore to Detroit and was reminded why I tuned in to the show in the first place. It’s not for the comedians or special guests (except maybe that one Carrie Brownstein episode), although each can prove to be wildly entertaining and funny. I tune in to listen to the banter between Robinson and Williams, the ease that they seem to have with themselves and one another. They often present extremely embarrassing stories but approach them with curiosity instead of judgement, gleaning whatever is to be learned or gained from each experience. They create a feel that every idea is one worth exploring, which is an especially potent energy to have in a collaboration. It’s this playfulness that serves as a reminder to lighten up and enjoy the act of creating. Also, they’re hilarious.